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England, a constitutional conundrum

February 25th, 2010 by Andrew Gwynne

To anybody who is still sceptical about the use of ‘new media’ in political debate, take note; I’m still pretty much engaged in the English devolution debate started on Twitter a few weeks back, continued on my blog and now continuing to rumble on, on Twitter!

Only today, the SNP minority administration in Holyrood has announced draft plans for a referendum on either full Scottish independence or what they are calling ‘devolution plus’ (giving further responsibility to the Scottish Executive for matters still currently the remit of Westminster). What happens to the draft referendum bill, let alone what the result of any referendum would be, is purely a matter of political speculation at this stage. What I want to explore is the English dimension to all this.

As I have previously said, I am a Unionist. I want the United Kingdom to continue as a sovereign nation state. I believe that we are stronger together than we would be apart.

But the United Kingdom as we know it today, evolved over centuries– and must continue to evolve and adapt if it is indeed to survive for the future.

Wales was effectively conquered in the 14th century, and legally subsumed into England during the Tudor period. Scotland has been conquered, regained political independence, itself secured the English crown peacefully, and in 1707 voted to join England in a political union creating a whole new country, Great Britain. Ireland too, joined this political union in 1801 to create a ‘United’ Kingdom, and ever since those various points in history the debate about ‘independence’ and ‘Home Rule’ have dominated domestic politics – right through to this present day.

Britain has never actually been a unitary state. Scottish law remained different to that in England and Wales, and for many years Northern Ireland had its own Parliament despite still sending Members to Westminster too.

Without a doubt, the UK of 2010 is politically a changed place. Devolution in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland is a firm reality and – with a few hiccups along the way – has been largely successful for those nations. But there is also clear unfinished business in our constitutional arrangements.

Firstly, we in England need to decide what we want our relationship to be with the other home nations. We need to decide how best our own political arrangements can be improved to allow decisions to be taken at the appropriate level of government, and in a fair way. As I said previously, I have an open mind about how to address the ‘English question’.

I am not a fan of regional assemblies and never have been. I don’t believe my constituents want one and it would be largely irrelevant to them. Had we had the referendum in the North West, I would have campaigned for a no vote. I can, however, see some logic in having a devolved English Parliament with similar powers to Holyrood, and a much smaller UK Parliament for all reserved matters.

And, though I still think it would be largely unworkable, because most bills do have a Scottish or Welsh dimension (however small), I can also see the logic of having the status quo at Westminster but with only MPs from English constituencies voting on ‘English-only’ matters. I’m sure other ideas can be added to this fairly inexhaustive list!

Perhaps a good model to adopt would be the Australian and Canadian federal system where each state (provinces in Canada) have their own legislature, government and Premier, and then a Federal Government and Prime Minister overseeing all the national politics. We are three-quarters the way there anyway!

Whatever the model, perhaps the starting point needs to be the establishment of a cross-party, cross-civic society Constitutional Convention. Let’s thrash out a devolution settlement for England and put an agreed position to the people and let them decide how we wish to be governed for the future. And, for someone who wants to defend the Union, importantly let’s debate what England’s political relationship should be within a modern United Kingdom.

Let that debate continue…

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For England and St. George!

February 8th, 2010 by Andrew Gwynne

I had a bit of a spat on Twitter earlier. Actually it turned into quite a good debate, or as much of one as you can have with 140 characters at a time! It was with a couple of people who probably very proudly describe themselves as ‘English nationalists’; who believe England should reassert itself as a sovereign nation state again.

I, however, am a Unionist. I am proud to be from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. I consider myself as British first and then English. The UK is my country, and being English born, half Scots (on my mother’s side) and with Welsh heritage on my father’s side (gwyn is the Welsh word for white) it makes me appreciate the different cultures, traditions and histories from right across our island nation.

The opening criticism on Twitter was that I had done nothing as an English MP to speak up for England in Parliament and that, in particular, we need an English Parliament to address the imbalance in the devolution settlement. I might be wrong, but I really do not think there is an appetite for a further layer of governance in England, no matter how powerful the case can be made (and it can) for a federal UK.

Our debate moved on to the ‘unfairness’ of having Scottish MPs as both Prime Minister and Chancellor (and presumably International Development Secretary too). I just don’t buy the argument that because Scotland and Wales have devolved structures that Scottish and Welsh Westminster MPs shouldn’t have key roles in any United Kingdom government – particularly in the cases cited, given they are UK and not ‘English’ ministerial positions.

Shouldn’t England have its own Secretary of State they argued. But what is the point when most of the remaining Cabinet positions oversee English-only departments? We have a Cabinet full of English Secretaries of State.

Personally, I feel these issues are mere distractions. Yes there is a case for reform at Westminster to address the so-called West Lothian question. I’m not sure that ‘English votes on English issues’ is as easy to do as some suggest because often there are clauses in Bills which relate to other parts of the UK too, but I will keep an open mind on it! I certainly do agree, though, that changes are needed.

Then there is the prickly subject of the Barnet Formula – whereby Scotland is allocated a very generous grant each year by the UK parliament. That probably will take a whole separate post!

Where I did completely agree with my two ‘nationalist’ friends, was the need for the English to rediscover their proud heritage and traditions; something the Scots, Welsh and Irish seem much better at celebrating. Tameside Council, which is one of my local authorities, does its bit every 23 April, with St George’s flags festooned everywhere, red roses handed out to the public, and stickers and badges for all school children in the borough. They’ve even launched a campaign for St George’s Day to be recognized as a public holiday – again, something I fully support. We do have a long history as a nation so let’s at least start to celebrate that a bit more!

Since posting my article, Conservative (and Unionist) PPC, Rene Kinzett, has written an interesting – and equally provocative – piece on the same subject here.

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